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MikeWaters 01-16-2018 03:15 PM

I guess the news coming out of this is Uchtdorf's removal from the FP
 
He would be the first since Marion G. Romney who was not retained by ETB.

The other example that comes to mind is when Hugh Brown was not retained after DOM.

MikeWaters 01-16-2018 03:26 PM

Btw, I'm not sure where we get the idea that Uchtdorf is more "liberal." I think it comes from the nature and subject of his talks in GC. But who knows what he believes on the controversial topics of the past few years. He may be more liberal. Or less liberal. And so forth.

It's not like we have some tell-all book that gives us a front row in the meetings of the FP and the apostles.

ChinoCoug 01-16-2018 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeWaters (Post 323407)
Btw, I'm not sure where we get the idea that Uchtdorf is more "liberal." I think it comes from the nature and subject of his talks in GC. But who knows what he believes on the controversial topics of the past few years. He may be more liberal. Or less liberal. And so forth.

It's not like we have some tell-all book that gives us a front row in the meetings of the FP and the apostles.

From my regional stake conference:
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It takes a village to raise a child. The church is your village.
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You are the United Nations of the Church.

MikeWaters 01-17-2018 03:47 AM

You are quoting Uchtdorf? So I guess you are saying he didn't talk about any New World Order birther stuff?

Btw, all the Mormon liberals pining for brown apostles from other continents...several commentators made the point that those populations are MUCH more conservative than Americans. Liberals might not find themselves so happy.

ChinoCoug 01-17-2018 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeWaters (Post 323415)
You are quoting Uchtdorf? So I guess you are saying he didn't talk about any New World Order birther stuff?

Yes, quoting Uchtdorf

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Btw, all the Mormon liberals pining for brown apostles from other continents...several commentators made the point that those populations are MUCH more conservative than Americans. Liberals might not find themselves so happy.
Yup. Brown apostle -> No ordain women.

MikeWaters 01-17-2018 11:22 PM

This is pretty scathing. I am surprised that BCC published this. Usually they are pretty milquetoast when it comes to controversy.

https://bycommonconsent.com/2018/01/...rdest-calling/

MikeWaters 01-18-2018 03:44 AM

I guess they deleted it. Here's the google cache copy:

https://webcache.googleusercontent.c...&ct=clnk&gl=us

ChinoCoug 01-18-2018 09:34 PM

They are sanitizing it before putting it back up.


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