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MikeWaters 01-14-2013 02:24 PM

another "poor Michael Quinn" article, this time from Slate
 
http://www.slate.com/articles/life/f..._a_mormon.html

It seems like in 2012, he is an anachronism. Caught up in a time of controversies that would not play out today like they did then.

Archaea 01-14-2013 08:15 PM

There is a sense of sadness how his life has gone, don't you think?

ChinoCoug 01-14-2013 08:20 PM

He says he is enjoying his freedom outside the Church too much. Otherwise, I'd say we should rebaptize him.

MikeWaters 01-14-2013 08:22 PM

this is the umpteenth iteration of this thesis. it loses its impact.

I wish the best to Quinn. Lots of poor people in the world though.

Archaea 01-14-2013 09:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MikeWaters (Post 317461)
this is the umpteenth iteration of this thesis. it loses its impact.

I wish the best to Quinn. Lots of poor people in the world though.

I have ignored the other iterations as the subject hadn't interested me much. More only reading was that somebody without a job but who has some abilities as a historian ends his life as a footnote. Not a happy circumstance to be in.

ChinoCoug 01-14-2013 09:34 PM

He is getting another book published by Signature books. This time on Mormonism and business. It's not that bad for him.

MikeWaters 01-14-2013 11:42 PM

He already has his place in the history of Mormon history. He's one of the most important figures of the past 30 years.

It's almost like he wants to say "I want to be accepted for who I am and what I did, and be in the good graces of the Saints." But he never overtly says this.

The man is gay, right? I don't know about his personal life, but we don't necessarily know that his separation from the church has to do with his historical work.

Would I be happy if I read one day that he was being rebaptized? Yes I would. I love it when people return. But I have no knowledge of what is needed for that to happen. And I assume that most people who have not returned to the church, are in that position as a matter of choice.

RedHeadGal 01-15-2013 06:45 PM

I found that article interesting. I wouldn't really call it sad or "poor Michael Quinn." He seems to have found his niche as an outlier.

What else strikes me, reading this piece which was written sort of as a timeline, is that I was at BYU when all this went down (meaning the Sept Six, I guess). I don't recall it being part of the conversation there. SO either I was totally out to lunch (possible), or they really managed to public dialogue (scary). Maybe both. . .

Incidentally, what does it take to get back in after excommunication?

MikeWaters 01-15-2013 09:59 PM

you're just making out with your boyfriend. I remember it.

Archaea 01-15-2013 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by RedHeadGal (Post 317468)
I found that article interesting. I wouldn't really call it sad or "poor Michael Quinn." He seems to have found his niche as an outlier.

What else strikes me, reading this piece which was written sort of as a timeline, is that I was at BYU when all this went down (meaning the Sept Six, I guess). I don't recall it being part of the conversation there. SO either I was totally out to lunch (possible), or they really managed to public dialogue (scary). Maybe both. . .

Incidentally, what does it take to get back in after excommunication?

a lot of humiliation and humble pie. Of course, if you've been gone long enough and it wasn't for a super-heinous reason, i.e., molestation, you can crawl on your knees to be reinstated.


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