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MikeWaters 09-14-2008 08:15 PM

what will BYU be ranked in the polls if it wins out?
 
is it possible we could be ranked 2nd, if there is not more than 2 undefeated teams?

il Padrino Ute 09-14-2008 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeWaters (Post 265327)
is it possible we could be ranked 2nd, if there is not more than 2 undefeated teams?

Never underestimate the bias against non-BCS teams.

Brian 09-14-2008 08:39 PM

Never underestimate the importance of schedule strength to BCS conf. voters.
Especially the SEC.

A two loss SEC team is more impressive that an unbeaten mid-major. Dick Harmon may be that stupid but the rest of the planet isn't.

ERCougar 09-14-2008 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Brian (Post 265346)
Never underestimate the importance of schedule strength to BCS conf. voters.
Especially the SEC.

A two loss SEC team is more impressive that an unbeaten mid-major. Dick Harmon may be that stupid but the rest of the planet isn't.

While I don't disagree with you, I read on CB that Fox was saying that BYU has to be considered in the Nat'l championship mix. I'm not ready to say that, but this win was big in getting us some attention. If enough people start to mention it, the idea becomes more fathomable.

If BYU decidedly wins all of their games and TCU and Utah beat everyone but BYU, there's a chance of No. 2.

MikeWaters 09-14-2008 09:08 PM

A team that is ranked 11th after week 3 ought to have a shot at #2 in the polls if it remains undefeated.

Cali Coug 09-14-2008 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeWaters (Post 265351)
A team that is ranked 11th after week 3 ought to have a shot at #2 in the polls if it remains undefeated.

Wow- I actually agree. It would take the following to happen (I think):

1. BYU needs to win out, and the mov needs to be HUGE against almost everyone.
2. TCU and Utah need to win out (or at least one of them needs to and the other needs to have one loss to OU at the most). Preferably both are ranked in the top 10-15.
3. ECU needs to lose a game, or they need to have a few more tight ones like they did against Tulane.
4. Everyone ahead of BYU except for USC needs at least one loss. OU will be the hardest to take down. I don't see any SEC school going undefeated, certainly no Big East or Big 10 team or ACC team either.

BarbaraGordon 09-14-2008 09:21 PM

First off, just win. No point in worrying about the rest of it.

Second off, Brian is correct, a 1-loss USC or SEC will get the bid over almost any undefeated team in the country (seeing as how Ohio State already has a loss). So you guys need to be one of two or fewer undefeateds and have either USC/SEC with two losses.

SoonerCoug 09-14-2008 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Cali Coug (Post 265352)
Wow- I actually agree. It would take the following to happen (I think):

1. BYU needs to win out, and the mov needs to be HUGE against almost everyone.
2. TCU and Utah need to win out (or at least one of them needs to and the other needs to have one loss to OU at the most). Preferably both are ranked in the top 10-15.
3. ECU needs to lose a game, or they need to have a few more tight ones like they did against Tulane.
4. Everyone ahead of BYU except for USC needs at least one loss. OU will be the hardest to take down. I don't see any SEC school going undefeated, certainly no Big East or Big 10 team or ACC team either.

Wrong. OU needs two losses. Basically everyone ahead of BYU needs two losses, and some teams that are behind BYU need two losses.

Brian 09-14-2008 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeWaters (Post 265351)
A team that is ranked 11th after week 3 ought to have a shot at #2 in the polls if it remains undefeated.

Sure, if they have some quality wins. But, that possibility doesn't exist with your schedule.

And it never will in the mwc.

Brian 09-14-2008 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by ERCougar (Post 265348)
While I don't disagree with you, I read on CB that Fox was saying that BYU has to be considered in the Nat'l championship mix. I'm not ready to say that, but this win was big in getting us some attention. If enough people start to mention it, the idea becomes more fathomable.

If BYU decidedly wins all of their games and TCU and Utah beat everyone but BYU, there's a chance of No. 2.

Maybe a chance out to 8 decimal places, but not realistically.

Maybe if everyone in the SEC has 4 losses.
But then we are back to 8 decimal places.


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