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Archaea 11-28-2007 10:13 PM

Interesting Dialogue Article from Peters
 
http://www.dialoguejournal.com/conte...4-Yorgason.pdf

The books are ones I intend to order by the way. He also speaks to items discussed here, and one which Seattle tries to articulate in a sense, the "Good Lie".

He refers to James's demonstration about the dead turtle, transactional truths. Page 15 of interview.

Jim Swarthout 11-29-2007 01:49 AM

So do you think this statement applies to CG?

"But I basically suspect intellectuals. I distrust our motives. I don’t think intellectuals always know what’s good, and we like to think we know what’s good. To use the Book of Mormon phrase, we often do things because it sustains our craft. Intellectuals want to make sure that people keep arguing and keep reading and keep writing. And that isn’t necessarily the best or at least only good way to live. Anyone who’s spent any time around universities will know that smart people can say the dumbest things."

ChinoCoug 11-29-2007 07:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim Swarthout (Post 156693)
So do you think this statement applies to CG?

"But I basically suspect intellectuals. I distrust our motives. I don’t think intellectuals always know what’s good, and we like to think we know what’s good. To use the Book of Mormon phrase, we often do things because it sustains our craft. Intellectuals want to make sure that people keep arguing and keep reading and keep writing. And that isn’t necessarily the best or at least only good way to live. Anyone who’s spent any time around universities will know that smart people can say the dumbest things."

hell yeah

ChinoCoug 11-29-2007 07:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim Swarthout (Post 156693)
"But I basically suspect intellectuals. I distrust our motives. I don’t think intellectuals always know what’s good, and we like to think we know what’s good. To use the Book of Mormon phrase, we often do things because it sustains our craft. Intellectuals want to make sure that people keep arguing and keep reading and keep writing."

case in point, KA Kitchen on documentary hypothesis:

Quote:

And so one could go on and on. But this tiny handful of
examples of (anti)academic lunacy will suffice. If the English
departments that started off all this nonsense can find nothing
better to do than this drivel, then we would be much better
off without them. And their resources would be freed up
for people with something worthwhile to offer their fellow
humans. The only worthwhile thing one can really do with
claptrap deconstruction is . . . to deconstruct it.

SoCalCoug 12-09-2007 10:27 PM

Very engaging interview.

Based on the Chino and Swarthout's comments, you'd think it's anti-intellectual.

I liked his description of Mormon intellectual politics, with the authoritarians on one side, the cosmopolitan intellectuals on the other, and the much smaller group, the "Party of the City", who "quietly and invisibly are centered on the true principles." My feeling is that both of these groups fancy themselves (incorrectly) as the "Party of the City" - it seems to me that's the primary tension that drives many of the discussions over here.

I'm definitely putting his books on my "To read" list.

I'd be able to get through actually reading that list of books, if I didn't spend so much time on CG, though.


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