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Archaea 05-18-2010 04:03 PM

Is your faith pragmatic enough to satisfy your needs?
 
Religious faith is amorphous, changing and often practical. If a circumstance arises which confounds the then current understanding, it forces a rejection of the former concepts or at least a reformation.

Does your faith meet your intellectual, your social, your emotional, your physical, or your needs of well-being?

Why or why not?

Archaea 05-18-2010 04:09 PM

I enjoy the practical aspects of our faith community, the general good will and desire for self-improvement, and the willingness to forgive. Those elements satisfy a lot of needs.

Mindfulcoug 05-18-2010 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Archaea (Post 311026)
I enjoy the practical aspects of our faith community, the general good will and desire for self-improvement, and the willingness to forgive. Those elements satisfy a lot of needs.

Knowing what we actually need is always more satisfying than satisfy the need which might not need to get satisfied.

Archaea 05-18-2010 11:54 PM

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Originally Posted by mindfulcoug (Post 311044)
Knowing what we actually need is always more satisfying than satisfy the need which might not need to get satisfied.


Here's a mental health question regarding Islam from the Shia perspective. In Islam, killing seems permitted if a person threatens certain religious sensibilities, i.e., misuse of the Prophet's image and what not. And an infidel may be killed.

My analysis of those willing to kill for religious reason seems to be motivated by anger, hate and resentment.

Yet mental health specialists advise against holding grudges, retaining anger and the like.

Several of the great religions Judaism, Christianity and to the extent one considers Buddhism a religion, forgiveness and allowing an affront to be forgotten for the mental health of an individual is essential.

It seems to an outsider that holding a grudge, holding on to anger, even against one' enemies, is a core doctrine of many Islamicists. Isn't that bad for mental health of adherents?

tooblue 05-19-2010 12:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Archaea (Post 311025)
Religious faith is amorphous, changing and often practical. If a circumstance arises which confounds the then current understanding, it forces a rejection of the former concepts or at least a reformation.

Does your faith meet your intellectual, your social, your emotional, your physical, or your needs of well-being?

Why or why not?

My faith is wonderfully pragmatic like a chapel pew:

http://www.thechapelpew.com

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What is an expression of faith if it is not at least grappling with notions of intangibility and evidences associated with the corporeal senses? How does one convey the wonderment of a paradox defined as: “to hope for things which are not seen, but which are true”? Perhaps it is most appropriate to exercise such notions in a treatise or work of poetry. Or, is it possible to associate such a wonderful absurdity with an object that is commonplace, functional, yet elegant and strong?

Mindfulcoug 05-19-2010 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Archaea (Post 311053)
Here's a mental health question regarding Islam from the Shia perspective. In Islam, killing seems permitted if a person threatens certain religious sensibilities, i.e., misuse of the Prophet's image and what not. And an infidel may be killed.

My analysis of those willing to kill for religious reason seems to be motivated by anger, hate and resentment.

Yet mental health specialists advise against holding grudges, retaining anger and the like.

Several of the great religions Judaism, Christianity and to the extent one considers Buddhism a religion, forgiveness and allowing an affront to be forgotten for the mental health of an individual is essential.

It seems to an outsider that holding a grudge, holding on to anger, even against one' enemies, is a core doctrine of many Islamicists. Isn't that bad for mental health of adherents?

When was the last time you checked your assumption with a Shia faghih or a Shia scholar? Who has implemented to you that is permitted to kill people over an offensive images of prophet Mohammad ( peace be upon him)? Have you ever read stories about his life and the way he would deal with the offenders?

I know very little about you. But even though,your desire to hold such a wrong assumption for all these years and keep calling muslims out on that is beyond me.

So here is my theory about why you are trying to actualize your assumptoins with almost zero fact repertoire. You are quite intrigued by what you have found about Islam. And you would probably be considering beocme a Muslim if there werenot too much social political back lash. So you are trying to delay the process by injecting the false alegations to the story in order to appase your otherwise avid soul. Which is indeed considered unhealthy for mental health.

MikeWaters 05-19-2010 09:13 PM

or this:

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So here is my theory about why you are trying to actualize your assumptoins with almost zero fact repertoire. You are quite intrigued by what you have found about Mormonism. And you would probably be considering beocme a Mormonif there werenot too much social political back lash.

tooblue 05-19-2010 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by mindfulcoug (Post 311070)
When was the last time you checked your assumption with a Shia faghih or a Shia scholar? Who has implemented to you that is permitted to kill people over an offensive images of prophet Mohammad ( peace be upon him)? Have you ever read stories about his life and the way he would deal with the offenders?

I know very little about you. But even though,your desire to hold such a wrong assumption for all these years and keep calling muslims out on that is beyond me.

So here is my theory about why you are trying to actualize your assumptoins with almost zero fact repertoire. You are quite intrigued by what you have found about Islam. And you would probably be considering beocme a Muslim if there werenot too much social political back lash. So you are trying to delay the process by injecting the false alegations to the story in order to appase your otherwise avid soul. Which is indeed considered unhealthy for mental health.

As an artist if I drew a portrait or image representing Mohammad (peace be upon him) and published it would my life be in jeopardy?

MikeWaters 05-20-2010 01:43 AM

A general question I will throw out there:

Is your wife pragmatic enough to satisfy your needs?

Mindfulcoug 05-20-2010 06:04 AM

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Originally Posted by tooblue (Post 311074)
As an artist if I drew a portrait or image representing Mohammad (peace be upon him) and published it would my life be in jeopardy?

In case you mean repulsive images, there is a huge difference between a permision being authorized from religious leader and some hurt feeling feedbacks. And i am quite happy that i dont have to explain it to you as you are a believer yourself.


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