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Indy Coug 03-04-2008 05:45 PM

Every Academic Needs to Watch This
 
http://www.expelledthemovie.com/playground.php

woot 03-04-2008 06:28 PM

Why do you say that? Do you actually think that "Big Science" is illegally discriminating against those that want to teach religion in science class? Do you actually think those that are not able to publish legitimate research should be given special treatment and still be able to receive tenure? Do you actually think that litigation is the way a legitimate scientific theory would choose to gain acceptance?

ID has been thoroughly debunked by scientists, so creationists recognize they have no chance to gain acceptance other than to force themselves upon the establishment through lying to the public and through pressuring the courts. Of course, they frame the discussion in such dishonest ways as to make it seem like they have been "expelled," when in reality they have been rejected in the same way that thousands of other hypotheses have been rejected when they are not supported by the evidence. They are trying to circumvent the scientific method because they know that's the only way they have a chance.

Do you want your kids being taught born-again style fundamentalism in science class? Why? Would you want your kids being taught Muslim or Hindu creation stories in science class? Why can't we just teach science in science class?

SeattleUte 03-04-2008 06:43 PM

"Big Science" LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!

woot 03-04-2008 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by SeattleUte (Post 193257)
"Big Science" LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!

That's what I thought the first time I heard they had chosen that term for their movie.

Indy Coug 03-04-2008 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by woot (Post 193252)
Why do you say that? Do you actually think that "Big Science" is illegally discriminating against those that want to teach religion in science class? Do you actually think those that are not able to publish legitimate research should be given special treatment and still be able to receive tenure? Do you actually think that litigation is the way a legitimate scientific theory would choose to gain acceptance?

ID has been thoroughly debunked by scientists, so creationists recognize they have no chance to gain acceptance other than to force themselves upon the establishment through lying to the public and through pressuring the courts. Of course, they frame the discussion in such dishonest ways as to make it seem like they have been "expelled," when in reality they have been rejected in the same way that thousands of other hypotheses have been rejected when they are not supported by the evidence. They are trying to circumvent the scientific method because they know that's the only way they have a chance.

Do you want your kids being taught born-again style fundamentalism in science class? Why? Would you want your kids being taught Muslim or Hindu creation stories in science class? Why can't we just teach science in science class?

You think this all about Intelligent Design? If you think the issues at play here are that limited, then... :rolleyes:

woot 03-04-2008 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Indy Coug (Post 193269)
You think this all about Intelligent Design? If you think the issues at play here are that limited, then... :rolleyes:

Yes, this is all about intelligent design. If you think there is some broader meaning here, out with it.

Surely you don't buy into these dopes' efforts to try to make "Big Science" a threat to the first amendment? You do realize that "Big Science" is in fact many thousands of ruthlessly independent thinkers whose greatest dream is to prove all the others wrong about anything?

The creators of this movie are very well-known; there is absolutely no mystery behind their intentions here. They are liars for Jesus, every one. They don't give a rip about the constitution. All they want is for their religious beliefs to gain enough acceptance to be forced onto our kids in science class. This is a missionary effort. Go read the "wedge document" and I bet you'll change your tune.

Jeff Lebowski 03-04-2008 08:21 PM

Looks like the same old hooey to me.

tooblue 03-04-2008 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeff Lebowski (Post 193341)
Looks like the same old hooey to me.

What's the difference between the aim of this movie and the prevailing tone in the religion forum of CougarGuard?

Looks like the same old hooey to me.

tooblue 03-04-2008 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by tooblue (Post 193444)
What's the difference between the aim of this movie and the prevailing tone in the religion forum of CougarGuard?

Looks like the same old hooey to me.

"What I'm asking for is the freedom to follow the evidence where ever it leads ..."

A quote from the preview. I don't know that I will ever see the film but I find the irony of majority of the responses to it's posting interesting.

RockyBalboa 03-04-2008 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeff Lebowski (Post 193341)
Looks like the same old hooey to me.

Sincerely,

Michael Moore


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