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joseph smith as the holy ghost?

so last night im talking with this family, the guy says to me he thinks the reason we dont know the name of the holy ghost is because its not actually a person, but more of a calling.....

and that joseph smith might have fulfilled this calling at one point in time....his wife shut him down pretty quick, i had to leave for a date so i didnt get to discuss this any futher...

anyone hear anything resembling this line of thought?

was he wearing a tinfoil hat?

no he was one of my dads counselors for years, very smart dude just had never heard it before so i didnt know if he was flying off the handle or there was something said that would make him believe that way....

the Holy Ghost is a calling, an unbodied spirit, who possesses certain powers by virtue of disembodiment.

I've never heard of JS potentially serving in that capacity. The HG has always been one of the mysteries for me.

i wonder where this idea originated from.....

I do not know where it originated ...

... but that idea has been passed around here and there based on some comments Joseph was alleged to have made. I thought I have kept files of the Joseph/HG issue, but to my suprise, I do not have any. Another idea that resurface from time to time are that Heavenly mother is the HG.

If I find a Joseph/HG article I will pass it along.

thanks dan, appreciate it....

how extensive was the administering of angels joseph received?

was he consistently being visited by seth, michael, elijah, others?

to the point where he knew physical traits of these people?

My father-in-law claims that he once held that calling

He said it was revealed to him that he once held the "calling". I can't help to think the guy is a nut. fusnik11, aren't you up in the Ogden area? Are you sure you weren't talking to Bryce Gibby?

was your father in law....

also joseph smith?

when you say bryce gibby in what context are you talking about, im quite confused....

Re: My father-in-law claims that he once held that calling

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Originally Posted by Criminalist

He said it was revealed to him that he once held the "calling". I can't help to think the guy is a nut. fusnik11, aren't you up in the Ogden area? Are you sure you weren't talking to Bryce Gibby?

Wow, I'll bet Thanksgiving at the in-laws is an interesting experience.

I don't want to open too big a can of worms, but when BY taught AG, did he expound on any beliefs about Heavenly Mother/Eve?

Concerning the question about how frequently was Joseph Smith receiving angelic visits, I had an Institute of Religion professor who compiled a list of the personages who visited Joseph, and the references. It was about 40 people long....from Eve to Moroni.

I can dig it up if you want.

yeah thatd be great....

i didnt know eve met with joseph smith...

Personages who visited Joseph Smith

1) God the Father (JS-H 1:17, D&C 76:20, HC 1:5)
2) Jesus Christ (JS-H 1:17, D&C 76:20-24, 110:2-10, HC 1:5-6)
3) Moroni (at least 14 times) (JS-H 1:21-60, HC 1:21-23, JD 17:374, Ensign Jan 1992)
4) Elijah (D&C 110:13-16, JD 23:48 )
5) John the Baptist (D&C 13, HC 1:39)
6) Peter (D&C 27:12, 128:20, HC 1:40-42, JD 18:326)
7) James (D&C 27:12, 128:20, HC 1:40-42, JD 18:326)
8 ) John (D&C 27:12, 128:20, HC 1:40-42, JD 18:326)
9) Adam (Michael) (D&C 128:21, HC 2:380, 3:399, JD 18:326)
10) Noah (Gabriel) (D&C 128:21, JD 21:94)
11) Raphael (D&C 128:21)
12) Moses (D&C 110:11, JD 21:65)
13) Elias (D&C 27:6, 110:12, JD 23:48 )
14) Abraham (D&C 27:10, JD 21:94)
15) Isaac (D&C 27:10, JD 21:94)
16) Jacob (D&C 27:10, JD 21:94)
17) Joseph (son of Jacob) (D&C 27:10)
18 ) Enoch (JD 21:65)
19-27) The Twelve Jewish Apostles (incl. #6-8: Peter, James & John) (JD 21:94)
28-39) The Twelve Nephite Apostles (JD 21:94)
40) Nephi (JD 21:161)
41) Seth (JD 21:94, D&C 107:53-57, HC 3:388 )
42) Methusaleh (JD 21:94, D&C 107:53-57, HC 3:388 )
43) Jared (Genesis) (D&C 107:53-57, HC 3:388 )
44) Mahalaleel (JD 21:94, D&C 107:53-57, HC 3:388 )
45) Enos (JD 21:94, D&C 107:53-57, HC 3:388)
46) Lamech (JD 18:325)
47) Abel (JD 18:325, HC 3:388 )
48 ) Cainan (HC 3:388, D&C 107:53-57)
49) Zelph the Lamanite (TS 6:788)
50) Alvin Smith (HC 2:380)
51) Mormon (JD 17:374)
52) Paul (TPJS 180)
53) Eve (OB 2:214)
54) Alma (JD 13:47)
55-58 ) Four Unnamed Angels (HC 1:106, Life of Heber C. Kimball 106)
59) Lucifer (D&C 128:20, JD 3:229-30)

(Sources: JS-H= Joseph Smith – History, JD= Journal of Discourses, HC=History of the Church, OB= Oliver B. Huntington Diary, TS= Times & Seasons, TPJS= Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith)