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ute4ever 10-13-2008 05:27 PM

I received my absentee ballot Saturday
 
I can vote right now. Who should I vote for?

BarbaraGordon 10-13-2008 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by ute4ever (Post 278597)
I can vote right now. Who should I vote for?

Can you write in MikeWaters?

Black Diamond Bay 10-13-2008 06:55 PM

I ran across this interesting little video online the other day:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m8K-tendkSc

TripletDaddy 10-13-2008 07:00 PM

I got about 35 seconds into the clip and stopped it for two reasons.

1. The clip is entitled Burning Down the House, a reference to the Talking Heads, and the intro music is clearly Dire Straits "Money for Nothing."
2. The clip makes it seem that low income families are largely to blame, when many of the biggest perps are middle income/leveraged high income people who were buying into bigger homes.

I mostly stopped it though because I hate Dire Straits and mark Knopfler is a headband-wearing fool. Walk of Life was a really catchy tune, though. i will give him that much. btw, the sports bloopers version of the Walk of Life video....VASTLY superior to the "communist soldiers in the tunnel" version.

Black Diamond Bay 10-13-2008 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by TripletDaddy (Post 278638)
I got about 35 seconds into the clip and stopped it for two reasons.

1. The clip is entitled Burning Down the House, a reference to the Talking Heads, and the intro music is clearly Dire Straits "Money for Nothing."
2. The clip makes it seem that low income families are largely to blame, when many of the biggest perps are middle income/leveraged high income people who were buying into bigger homes.

I mostly stopped it though because I hate Dire Straits and mark Knopfler is a headband-wearing fool. Walk of Life was a really catchy tune, though. i will give him that much. btw, the sports bloopers version of the Walk of Life video....VASTLY superior to the "communist soldiers in the tunnel" version.

I can't comment on the music, I had my computer on mute since I am at work. I watched most of it, and I didn't feel that low income people are to blame at all. I think you should have watched more of the video.

ute4ever 10-13-2008 07:19 PM

Presently this is an awfully close poll.

TripletDaddy 10-13-2008 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Black Diamond Bay (Post 278642)
I can't comment on the music, I had my computer on mute since I am at work. I watched most of it, and I didn't feel that low income people are to blame at all. I think you should have watched more of the video.

The video seemed to blame the Dems for passing legislation back during the Carter regime....an Act that was aimed at helping low income families. But as I stated, from what I see around here, the blame can be spread around to all income levels.

I thought about that your point afterwards and you are right. It is always good to hear the other side out. Minus 10 points for me. I will watch the whole thing later.

I would give you minus 10 points for you for not listening to the music, but as I mentioned, it is Dire Straits. You keep all your points.

Black Diamond Bay 10-13-2008 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by TripletDaddy (Post 278653)
The video seemed to blame the Dems for passing legislation back during the Carter regime....an Act that was aimed at helping low income families. But as I stated, from what I see around here, the blame can be spread around to all income levels.

I thought about that your point afterwards and you are right. It is always good to hear the other side out. Minus 10 points for me. I will watch the whole thing later.

I would give you minus 10 points for you for not listening to the music, but as I mentioned, it is Dire Straits. You keep all your points.

Go ahead and take 10 points, I own their greatest hits cd.

TripletDaddy 10-13-2008 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Black Diamond Bay (Post 278660)
Go ahead and take 10 points, I own their greatest hits cd.

Depends on whethre you bought it for "Money for Nothing" or for "Walk of Life."

Black Diamond Bay 10-13-2008 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by TripletDaddy (Post 278662)
Depends on whethre you bought it for "Money for Nothing" or for "Walk of Life."

Neither, "Brothers in Arms."

TripletDaddy 10-13-2008 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Black Diamond Bay (Post 278665)
Neither, "Brothers in Arms."

That is actually a good song, too.

Keep your points.

Foiled again by Mark Knopfler!

BlueK 10-13-2008 07:58 PM

Paul isn't running. Why not replace him with Barr who has the same views minus a few of the wacko ones.

Cougar Hunter 10-13-2008 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Black Diamond Bay (Post 278636)
I ran across this interesting little video online the other day:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m8K-tendkSc

Classic post hoc ergo propter hoc fallacy.
That guy strains too hard to connect the CRA to the sub-prime crisis when there isn't even a correlation. The CRA was enacted 30 years ago with Clinton making changes in 95. There was a jump in sup-prime lending in the late 90's as a result of CRA but died down around 2001. The Bush admin weakened the CRA yet subprime loans continued to rise.

Studies show the sub-prime loans made under Clinton as a result of the CRA performed quite well and had low default rates. Also lenders subject to the CRA made less subprime loans than private lenders that weren't subject to the regulation.

Notice how there are no lenders crying about the CRA and claiming that it forced them to make 120% loans, neg-am loans, interest-only loans etc.

www.prospect.org

But any idiot can make a video and put it on Youtube.

ute4ever 10-13-2008 08:35 PM

Ooh, there's a Proposition 8 thingy on it too. I've been meaning to pray about that one.

I find it odd that in 2004, a million people claimed they prayed over Bush or Kerry, and half of them received a "Bush" answer while half received a "Kerry" answer.

Black Diamond Bay 10-13-2008 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Cougar Hunter (Post 278691)
Classic post hoc ergo propter hoc fallacy.
That guy strains too hard to connect the CRA to the sub-prime crisis when there isn't even a correlation. The CRA was enacted 30 years ago with Clinton making changes in 95. There was a jump in sup-prime lending in the late 90's as a result of CRA but died down around 2001. The Bush admin weakened the CRA yet subprime loans continued to rise.

Studies show the sub-prime loans made under Clinton as a result of the CRA performed quite well and had low default rates. Also lenders subject to the CRA made less subprime loans than private lenders that weren't subject to the regulation.

Notice how there are no lenders crying about the CRA and claiming that it forced them to make 120% loans, neg-am loans, interest-only loans etc.

www.prospect.org

But any idiot can make a video and put it on Youtube.

I just said it was interesting.

Cali Coug 10-14-2008 12:33 AM

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Originally Posted by ute4ever (Post 278597)
I can vote right now. Who should I vote for?

I like you, ute4ever, but if you are basing your vote on a poll on CG from people you don't know, then a better option would probably be "do not vote" (although a MUCH better option would be to read up on the candidates and find the one who most closely represents your views).

BarbaraGordon 10-14-2008 12:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Cali Coug (Post 278793)
I like you, ute4ever, but if you are basing your vote on a poll on CG from people you don't know, then a better option would probably be "do not vote" (although a MUCH better option would be to read up on the candidates and find the one who most closely represents your views).

Do you really think 4ever would base his vote on a CG poll? I rather doubt it. And if someone like 4ever is, then that says an awful lot about the two candidates and the state of our politics.

il Padrino Ute 10-14-2008 01:49 AM

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Originally Posted by TripletDaddy (Post 278638)
I got about 35 seconds into the clip and stopped it for two reasons.

1. The clip is entitled Burning Down the House, a reference to the Talking Heads, and the intro music is clearly Dire Straits "Money for Nothing."
2. The clip makes it seem that low income families are largely to blame, when many of the biggest perps are middle income/leveraged high income people who were buying into bigger homes.

I mostly stopped it though because I hate Dire Straits and mark Knopfler is a headband-wearing fool. Walk of Life was a really catchy tune, though. i will give him that much. btw, the sports bloopers version of the Walk of Life video....VASTLY superior to the "communist soldiers in the tunnel" version.

I see we disagree about Dire Straights and Knopfler. One of my favorite bands and artists.

And yes, I've seen Knopfler both with Dire Straights and solo.


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