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SoCalCoug 10-02-2008 05:04 PM

My prediction for a Tex thread tomorrow
 
No matter what happens in the VP debate tonight, I predict that Tex will come here tomorrow with a post about what a great job Sarah Palin did, and how poorly Biden did. And that if the media pundits think otherwise, it's because they're liberally biased.

Just a feeling I have.

Jeff Lebowski 10-02-2008 05:17 PM

Wooo, bold call there buddy.

I understand that the debate format will be not so much a debate, rather the two candidates will be taking turns stating canned responses to pre-determined questions. The republicans insisted on this format before agreeing to the debate. So, yes, I am guessing she will do better than people expect and Tex will gloat. But let's not call it a debate.

MikeWaters 10-02-2008 05:19 PM

I predict a "we told them thanks , but no thanks for that bridge to nowhere."

and "drill, baby, drill."

Sarah Palin: the woman who single-handedly destroyed feminism.

TripletDaddy 10-02-2008 05:32 PM

Screw this crap. Let's talk about the REAL issues:

1. Will Palin flash some cleave or will she continue wearing these fugly Nehru jackets that cover everything up to her neck? The McCain camp needs a boost and she needs to distract voters from her answers.

My Vote: CLEAVE.

2. Will she wear a brightly colored outfit that says, "I'm trying hard to appear to be heterosexual, but I'm really a lesbian," a la Hillary's orange pantsuit? Or will she go business cas and sport a dark outfit?

My Vote: DARK OUTFIT

3. As a lesbian side note, will she rock a pantsuit? Or will she continue to milk her gams for more political capital?

My Vote: SKIRT

4. Will she use her baby as a prop before OR after the debate? It is inevitable that the baby is going to make an appearance on camera.....who doesn't bring their little baby along to work, after all? My question...will it be right before the debate begins (she hands the baby to her husband as she goes on stage)....during the debate (camera shots of the baby in the audience) or after the debate (husband hands her the baby onstage, as if to say, "ok, you are done now, please come home, Mommy).

My Vote: MID-DEBATE

5. Hair: Up-do or down?

My Vote: UP (that is a Santos lock)

6. Will she refer to herself as a hockey mom?

My Vote: you betcha!

Indy Coug 10-02-2008 05:38 PM

A more interesting prediction would center around how many different threads about Palin Cali Coug will start once the debate is over. I think Cali has a "thang" for Palin.

BlueK 10-02-2008 05:41 PM

Is it possible for the VP debate to blow it for McCain?
 
Palin MUST look like she knows what she's talking about and that she is qualified to take over the presidency if necessary. That is the primary purpose of the VP according to the Constitution and that's what she's being elected to do. If she blows it, McCain's campaign is done. Ross Perot had a a lot momentum going until Admiral Stockdale ruined it with his bizarre "who am I" "I don't know why I'm here" comments.

Indy Coug 10-02-2008 05:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlueK (Post 273574)
Palin MUST look like she knows what she's talking about and that she is qualified to take over the presidency if necessary. That is the primary purpose of the VP according to the Constitution and that's what she's being elected to do. If she blows it, McCain's campaign is done. Ross Perot had a a lot momentum going until Admiral Stockdale ruined it with his bizarre "who am I" "I don't know why I'm here" comments.

Hell, Stockdale had even LESS experience than Obama.

Tex 10-03-2008 01:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff Lebowski (Post 273537)
Wooo, bold call there buddy.

I understand that the debate format will be not so much a debate, rather the two candidates will be taking turns stating canned responses to pre-determined questions. The republicans insisted on this format before agreeing to the debate. So, yes, I am guessing she will do better than people expect and Tex will gloat. But let's not call it a debate.

Gwen Ifil just said there will be 2 minutes for discussion after each question, and that she has not shared the questions or topics with anyone.

Where did you get your bad information, Leb?

BarbaraGordon 10-03-2008 01:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tex (Post 273779)
Gwen Ifil just said there will be 2 minutes for discussion after each question, and that she has not shared the questions or topics with anyone.

Where did you get your bad information, Leb?

It came out in the NYTimes a couple of weeks ago. The candidates must have continued negotiations after that agreement was negotiated. Either that or the Times had its story wrong.

myboynoah 10-03-2008 02:06 AM

I'm calling this. Palin wins.

Also, the news media (for the most part) is liberal. I thought that was a given. But they are professionals, so they do not let their own political leanings creep into their presentation of the news.

I know this because they tell us so.

ute4ever 10-03-2008 02:36 AM

Was that the same Palin who has been stumbling over how to spell "Alaska"? Goodness the difference between this debate and all of her media appearances from the past five weeks were like night and day.

Jeff Lebowski 10-03-2008 02:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tex (Post 273779)
Gwen Ifil just said there will be 2 minutes for discussion after each question, and that she has not shared the questions or topics with anyone.

Where did you get your bad information, Leb?

I don't recall.

Jeff Lebowski 10-03-2008 02:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BarbaraGordon (Post 273780)
It came out in the NYTimes a couple of weeks ago. The candidates must have continued negotiations after that agreement was negotiated. Either that or the Times had its story wrong.

I swear I read it somewhere.

Jeff Lebowski 10-03-2008 02:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by myboynoah (Post 273788)
I'm calling this. Palin wins.

I thought she got her ass kicked. Eye of the beholder, I suppose.

BarbaraGordon 10-03-2008 05:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cali Coug (Post 273818)
I saw it too. I will try to hunt it down.

It was me. I posted it. You read it. And as I've established myself as such a credible, reliable, unbiased and worthy authority on these matters, you both understandably logged it as fact instead of as standard message board drivel.

http://cougarguard.com/forum/showthread.php?p=269296


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Indy Coug 10-03-2008 05:32 AM

I didn't watch any of the debate, but I did turn to several networks afterwards and the consensus seemed to be that both did well.

myboynoah 10-03-2008 01:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff Lebowski (Post 273793)
I thought she got her ass kicked. Eye of the beholder, I suppose.

While I do have conservative political leanings, I do not let those views affect my analysis of political events. Trust me on this.

Also, I was handicapping Palin significantly.

BlueK 10-03-2008 01:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cali Coug (Post 273837)
By the way, what in the world was up with Palin just deciding to answer questions nobody asked and refusing (literally) to answer those asked? She was all over the place tonight.

can we go back to discussing our energy policy?

myboynoah 10-03-2008 01:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cali Coug (Post 273809)
That's good, because you also called McCain's win after the debate. I hope you are equally right now as you were then!

(polls once again indicate the Dem won).

Jesus won his debates as well, although public opinion was significantly against him. Something to think about.

Tex 10-03-2008 03:26 PM

Far more interesting debate than last week's, and more interesting than the last couple of VP debates.

Biden did quite well. He avoided gaffing and did not come across as a bully or condescending. He took many shots at McCain--which is what he's supposed to do--that Palin let slide, probably because she doesn't possess his encyclopedic knowledge of the last 35 years of federal law. He did come across as a little wonkish, which I don't think appeals to the common man.

By now this is cliche, but Palin easily exceeded all expectations. She was relaxed, a little funny, and very comfortable. She made good points on the topics, particularly on energy, and held her own on foreign policy. She even pushed back on Joe a little.

In the end I think Palin did more for her ticket than Biden did for his. That's probably a result of the media and pundit criticism she's taken the last couple of weeks (no one pays attention to Biden except his gaffes). Typically I'd say no one really votes for VP anyway, but this may be an exception year because so many conservatives (including me) dislike McCain. Those who questioned Palin after the Couric interviews may now come back into the fold.

Did she sway undecideds? Frank Luntz certainly thought so. We'll see if the polls show anything.

All in all, a pretty entertaining debate. I expect the next two to be as dull as the first.

Tex 10-03-2008 03:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BarbaraGordon (Post 273780)
It came out in the NYTimes a couple of weeks ago. The candidates must have continued negotiations after that agreement was negotiated. Either that or the Times had its story wrong.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff Lebowski (Post 273792)
I swear I read it somewhere.

*Insert canned anti-NYTimes comment here.*

TripletDaddy 10-03-2008 03:45 PM

I was disappointed in the lack of cleave, but it was nice when the camera panned from behind to get those Palin leg shots.

Is it true that the candidates knew the questions beforehand? If so, how boring. Last night was fairly uneventful as is....both played it safe and there were really no memorable gaffes or inspiring answers...but if the candidates knew the questions beforehand, then no wonder Palin seemed coherent. As well as Biden.

Jeff Lebowski 10-03-2008 03:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tex (Post 273969)
*Insert canned anti-NYTimes comment here.*

No, I didn't read it there. Nor do I recall reading BG's post. But a quick google search shows quite a few articles discussing the altered format for the VP debate and how the McCain camp wanted to limit interaction as much as possible:

http://www.studlife.com/news/1.750397

http://www.slate.com/id/2201334/

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/21/us.../21debate.html

I may have simply mispoke on the pre-determined question part.

myboynoah 10-03-2008 04:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cali Coug (Post 273936)
Palin is going to be crucified? Seems a bit harsh.

I'm glad you agree.

Tex 10-03-2008 04:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TripletDaddy (Post 273996)
I was disappointed in the lack of cleave, but it was nice when the camera panned from behind to get those Palin leg shots.

Is it true that the candidates knew the questions beforehand? If so, how boring. Last night was fairly uneventful as is....both played it safe and there were really no memorable gaffes or inspiring answers...but if the candidates knew the questions beforehand, then no wonder Palin seemed coherent. As well as Biden.

Gullibility strikes again.


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