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8ballrollin 09-18-2008 08:56 PM
Lincy and Cy
 
I was reading about the NL Cy Young race this morning and it reminded me of a cool write-up from a few months back on Tim Lincecum in SI. Lincy looks like he's on track to win the NL award - leads in ERA, SOs, Win prct., etc.

His stats:http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/player...playerId=28705
The guy is only making $400k this year! Crazy.

The SI article is a cool story of a father coaching a son and the dad telling college coaches to not screw with his motion. When he was drafted, many scouts said (and still say) his body can't take his motion over the long haul. It's the same thing they said about Pedro.

http://i2.cdn.turner.com/si/2008/wri...1_lincecum.jpg

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Before Tim accepted a full ride at Washington, Chris [Tim's dad] made the Huskies' coaches promise they wouldn't change his mechanics…

Where Lincecum truly separates himself from most pitchers is the length of his stride. It is ridiculously long as it relates to his height. And just as his left foot, the landing foot, appears to be nearing the ground at the end of his stride, he lifts it as if stepping over a banana peel -- extending his stride even more. The normal stride length for a pitcher is 77% to 87% of his height. Lincecum's stride is 129%, or roughly 7 1/2 feet.
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200...707/index.html

I love the fact that the kid is 5'11' 170 and ripping up the majors.

cougjunkie 09-18-2008 08:59 PM
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Originally Posted by 8ballrollin (Post 266996)
I was reading about the NL Cy Young race this morning and it reminded me of a cool write-up from a few months back on Tim Lincecum in SI. Lincy looks like he's on track to win the NL award - leads in ERA, SOs, Win prct., etc.

His stats:http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/player...playerId=28705
The guy is only making $400k this year! Crazy.

The SI article is a cool story of a father coaching a son and the dad telling college coaches to not screw with his motion. When he was drafted, many scouts said (and still say) his body can't take his motion over the long haul. It's the same thing they said about Pedro.

http://i2.cdn.turner.com/si/2008/wri...1_lincecum.jpg



http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200...707/index.html

I love the fact that the kid is 5'11' 170 and ripping up the majors.
The most amazing thing to me is a stat Buster Olney posted, he has made 17 starts where the Giants have scored 2 runs or less this season while he was in the game. He is still 17-3. Also most thought with his violent throwing motion he would be a closer in a Billy Wagner mold. This kid is unbelievable to watch.

il Padrino Ute 09-18-2008 10:00 PM
Wow, that is some serious over-the-top arm-whip. If it works - which it apparently does - then more power to him.

I haven't seen this guy pitch yet. What's his fastball mph? What are his other pitches?

cougjunkie 09-18-2008 10:02 PM
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Originally Posted by il Padrino Ute (Post 267054)
Wow, that is some serious over-the-top arm-whip. If it works - which it apparently does - then more power to him.

I haven't seen this guy pitch yet. What's his fastball mph? What are his other pitches?
98-99 fastball, then he throws a hard curve about 86-88. But his best pitch is probably his changeup.

Surfah 09-18-2008 10:07 PM
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Originally Posted by il Padrino Ute (Post 267054)
Wow, that is some serious over-the-top arm-whip. If it works - which it apparently does - then more power to him.

I haven't seen this guy pitch yet. What's his fastball mph? What are his other pitches?
He's nasty. You'd be a fan. His power comes from his huge step. Pretty amazing stuff.

il Padrino Ute 09-18-2008 10:53 PM
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Originally Posted by cougjunkie (Post 267058)
98-99 fastball, then he throws a hard curve about 86-88. But his best pitch is probably his changeup.
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Originally Posted by Surfah
He's nasty. You'd be a fan. His power comes from his huge step. Pretty amazing stuff.
Sweet. I need to watch the kid pitch. From a catcher's perspective, it's fun to see the varying styles of pitching.

8ballrollin 09-19-2008 03:02 AM
Tonight through five...59 pitches: 50 strikes, nine balls, three hits, no runs.

8ballrollin 11-11-2008 06:23 PM
Nice...

http://mlb.mlb.com/images/2008/11/11/VYhUz5D4.jpg

http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?...=.jsp&c_id=mlb

Runner Coug 11-11-2008 06:27 PM
Very cool. I'm happy for him.

Does winning the Cy come with a monetary bonus? If so, I hope he uses it to go get those teeth fixed.

8ballrollin 11-11-2008 06:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Runner Coug (Post 293759)
Very cool. I'm happy for him.

Does winning the Cy come with a monetary bonus? If so, I hope he uses it to go get those teeth fixed.
I think the kid *only* made $350K last year. By MLB ace standards, obviously, that's nothing. A-rod makes as much in a week. His agent will be licking his chops.

Hot Lunch 11-11-2008 07:16 PM
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Originally Posted by cougjunkie (Post 266999)
This kid is unbelievable to watch.
There are not a lot of pitchers that you really get excited about to watch pitch but he is definitely one of them. He really is fun to watch even though he plays for the Giants.

il Padrino Ute 11-11-2008 07:17 PM
Congrats to Lincecum.

Despite the fact that he can now use this to get a huge salary, it's good to see one of the lower pay scale guys get this kind of recognition.

creekster 11-11-2008 07:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Hot Lunch (Post 293804)
There are not a lot of pitchers that you really get excited about to watch pitch but he is definitely one of them. He really is fun to watch even though he plays for the Giants.

I think you meant "especially BECAUSE he plays for the Giants."

Hot Lunch 11-11-2008 07:38 PM
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Originally Posted by creekster (Post 293809)
I think you meant "especially BECAUSE he plays for the Giants."
Never would I say something like that. GO BLUE CREW

Mormon Red Death 11-11-2008 09:30 PM
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Originally Posted by il Padrino Ute (Post 267054)
Wow, that is some serious over-the-top arm-whip. If it works - which it apparently does - then more power to him.

I haven't seen this guy pitch yet. What's his fastball mph? What are his other pitches?
I saw him beat the cubs... He definitely is the best pitcher in baseball for 2008

il Padrino Ute 11-12-2008 02:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Mormon Red Death (Post 293892)
I saw him beat the cubs... He definitely is the best pitcher in baseball for 2008
I did get to see him pitch. He was impressive. Whoever it was here who said that he has a good off speed pitch was right on the money.

mpfunk 11-12-2008 05:31 PM
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Originally Posted by 8ballrollin (Post 293762)
I think the kid *only* made $350K last year. By MLB ace standards, obviously, that's nothing. A-rod makes as much in a week. His agent will be licking his chops.
It depends on when he is arbitration eligible. MLB has a very strict salary structure for young players. It isn't a surprise that he is only making 400K

8ballrollin 11-12-2008 06:06 PM
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Originally Posted by mpfunk (Post 294269)
It depends on when he is arbitration eligible. MLB has a very strict salary structure for young players. It isn't a surprise that he is only making 400K
I'm not surprised either. This is only his second season in the majors; he's still under the contract he signed when he was only considered a prospect. But it is interesting to note the salaries of the other pitchers in contention for the award...

Webb: $5MM
Santana: $16MM
Sabathia: $11MM


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