So with BYU now at #17....
 

I guess there technically still is a shot, assuming we win out.

Curse you, Jay Santos!

And just for Santos, note that SC is now the top-rated 1-loss team in the country. The coaches know talent when they see it.

Phew- I really thought #20 was likely (or worse). The ACC is really helping BYU in their unlikely BCS run. Wake, UNC and VaTech all lost, making it very possible that no ACC team is ranked in the top 16 of the BCS standings at the end of the season. If that is the case, BYU could sneak in if they are ranked between 12-16 and no other non-BCS team is ahead of them. We need Ball State, BSU, Tulsa and TCU to lose. We can beat Utah, so they aren't a factor.

EDIT: I just looked at the rankings, and BYU is still above Tulsa and Ball State. We really only need Utah (or someone else) to beat TCU, and BSU to lose. And we need to win out. That isn't as improbable as I would have thought. That said, this team needs to refocus quickly or they will lose again.

I don't see BSU losing. Then we can all sit and try to convince ourselves that college football fans think the MWC is better than the WAC, who cares about 3 straight BCS games?

Hope springs etermal.

Tulsa would annihilate BYU. So I guess life aint fair. Did you see what Tulsa did to New Mexico, their common opponent?

Have you seen Tulsa play this year or are you just talking out of your ass?

I am going to say the later.

Also did anyone see Tulsa up 70-35 with under 5 minutes to play go for it on 4th and 6 inside Uteps 10 yard line.

Hey, that no one has more class BYU is older than old news. Talk about something else already. The moral high ground was ceded to you by all other NCAA teams back in the 80s or something.

Anyone want to bet that on Nov. 8th SU will be posting that Utah is better than BSU because BSU only beat the Aggies by 45 at home and not 48 on the road like his Utes did. Utah would obviously destroy BSU based this data.

I could easily see them losing at San Jose this week, or Fresno State at the end of the season.

By the way, I can't believe we stayed as high as we did.

There are a few provisions in the BCS rules that assist more than one mid-major in receiving a BCS invite:

-No more than 2 teams from any conference may participate
-All teams ranked in the top 14 are eligible for at-large selections, regardless of conference

This year, it is not unfathomable that the final BCS rankings will include 6 Big 12 teams and 4 SEC teams in the top 14, but only 4 of them may participate. Moreover, although only the highest ranked mid-major within the top 12 becomes an automatic qualifier, a mid-major in the top 14 remains an eligible qualifier.

I didn't see the game, but what would you have done? I think most teams would have gone for it.

You really buy into this common opponent thing, don't you? Apparently, in SU world, if Team A beats Team B, and Team B then beats Team C, then Team A DEFINITELY is better than Team C. Right?

Flawless logic. I doubt that formula has ever once broken down.

Even better logic is saying that because Team A beat Team B by 14 points, but team C beat Team B by 50 points, Team C is DEFINITELY better than Team A, and would beat Team A on any given day by 36 points. That also has proven to be true 100% of the time. FACT.

#17 and #18?

We're overated.

I hope to God we don't go to a BCS bowl. This BYU team has over-achieved so far. A BCS bowl would be disaster.

So take my
 

$50 dollar wager on BYU vs. Utah.....straight up. I'll take Utah. YOu take BYU.

You run a dive play.
 

If you kneel down, you've just insulted the opposing team. Same with a FG or pass play.

Oregon State 45 Hawaii 7. BSU 27 Hawaii 7. Both winners at home.

The numbers don't lie. BSU is overrated. OSU would beat them.

Sadly I really have to agree with SU, OS is underrated considering they aren't even getting votes. They are vastly underrated. I see them handling their remaining home games fairly easily.

The odd thing is, in this thread SU is championing OSU.

Yet in his rambling fairness thread, he uses OSU as an example as to why SC is not deserving.

For those that don't understand the rankings:

The AP Poll no longer means anything

The BCS Poll is out

BYU is #21

They're probably the second best team in the PAC-10 right now...agree? Or at least it's very close - I think they're on par with both Cal and Oregon.

BTW, is that David Locke in your avatar? - LOL.

I thought Price's head was going to explode.

These positions are inconsistent? My posts aren't at war with each other, unlike yours.

You're the rambler, not me.

If OSU is a quality team and will wind up winning the PAC10 championship, then SC's only loss will have come at the hands of an excellent team that is a BCS conference champ.

So SC's loss actually was a really quality loss. Therefore, it would not be unfair for them to play for the title.

So I guess we agree on that.

Yes, that is David Locke.

No. I hypothesized OSU winning the Pac 10, and said if USC can't even win the Pac 10 it has no busines in the NC game, certainly not more than Utah, which, per my hypothetical, finished unbeaten, and beat OSU.

Then we disagree.

You can win any other sport's championship without winning your own conference or division.

Now you are the one being inconsistent.

Nobody but you thinks that Utah is better than USC. Maybe you know something that over 100 other coaches do not.

If that happened, the football gods will get even with Tulsa. I no longer expect an undefeated season from them.

my memory is a little fuzzy, but didn't OK lose the big 12 conference to Kansas state one year and still play in the then matchup between # 1 and 2? BCS is built for controversy.

I'm still wondering what they should have done. I didn't see the game, so if they threw a pass, that's one thing; if they ran and weren't stopped, that's another.

Couldn't they have kicked a field goal?

They went 5 wide and ran a qb draw. Also on the same drive on 3rd and 1 up 35 they ran a play action pass that went for 35 yards.

I think that would be worse. Most 4th-and-5's will be stopped. Even with 4th and 1, you don't kick a FG. Sort of a catch-22 I guess.

Yeah, that's kind of weak. The play action pass is VERY weak. Keep it vanilla.

Of course, with the current setup, they have to win big. The only thing they have control over is the MOV. But 35's probably enough.

BSU doesn't matter that much. Utah is ahead of them already and TCU will easily pass them if they beat Utah. There is only two spots difference between BSU and TCU.

You've lost this bet the last two years. Third time's a charm?

Will your brain explode if Oregon beats Oregon State? Are you having a tough time with the following?

Stanford 36 Oregon State 28
UCLA 23 Stanford 20
BYU 59 UCLA 0

You are thinking of Nebraska...

That's funny.

Boy, if only we had a way to settle this once and for all. If only BYU and Utah could actually play each other...

Exactly.