Documented examples of CougarGuard censorship.
This thread is not a complaint.
It as a simple way for the people of CG to monitor the kinds of things that get censored here. as a check against the POTENTIAL abuse of the TWO mods. If you are aware of an example of CG censorship, please write a non-offending description of the censored post below. If you are aware of someone else's post getting censored, mention it, to the best of your memory (I doubt that grapevine is going to come forward with ALL of his racist posts, but it would be good to have mention of a few here, to simply sample the flavor of the censoring trends of CG). |
Discussion about early LDS temple ceremony.
A couple of days ago, I included a post that allegedly quoted from an early LDS temple ceremony from the last centuray. The text included portions of the ceremony that fall outside of the covenant of secrecy. In general terms, this was a religious post that intended to illicit responses to early LDS oaths of vengence and violence in the LDS temple ceremony. |
Fallout to the Discussion about early LDS temple ceremony.
Talking with AA after the deleted post, I refered to the fact that in spite of AA's opinion about what can and can not be discussed here, most of the discussion about the early LDS temple ceremony remained. Only the allegedy quoted portions got deleted. A mod then deleted this post. I assumed it was 'a mod with a sense of humor,' and reposted my comment. The latter comment remains. This seemed to be an example of a mod flexing his muscle for 'fun?' |
While I was on CG the other night, Mrs. myboynoah noticed Archaea's avatar and said she didn't approve. I felt compelled to close my eyes.
Does that count? |
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I'll change it when I summon up the energy to find another photo worth having Mike crop for me.
My avatar served its once humorous purpose. I'm just not creative enough to find something else expressing any novel thoughts, not that the original one did that. But far be it from me to drive men away from their wives. |
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By the way, what exactly is the "foundation pour l'aphabetization"? |
Censored for temple talk again:
Ute4Ever asked why I wanted to talk about the temple. I responded that I was more interested in people's response to an older version of the ceremony, that contains some material that I found to be startling and violent. Some aspect of those posts gets censored some times, and not at other times. Archaea... care to share your reasons? |
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The temple is theatre used to teach principles. The theatre isn't important it's the principles taught that are.
Without the Spirit, the intellect alone cannot understand it. So discussing it intellectually is meaningless. This is not a blind faith thing. The temple is most excrutiatingly difficult, yet beautiful thing to explore, but only members harboring the Spirit, who also investigate deeply the Gosple can hope touch upon its depths. Discussing differences in temple ceremony is inappropriate as it's (a) forbidden, and (b) a usesless exercise for somebody without the Spirit and intellect atuned to its message. I dare say most members who attend only get the temple at a very superficial level. |
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Frankly, is there any purpose to this thread except to try to circumvent censorship? If not that, then to say that by deleting posts discussing deleting posts, one can accurately say we are becoming more like cougarboard?
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This thread is not intended to cry foul about censorship. It simply exists to document its existence. I tend to think that most people on this list have no problem with my 'temple talk' getting shut down. I'm not listing it seeking sympathy. But some day, the level of censorship might reach a level that other find unacceptable. If that day ever comes, I hope this thread might be a useful document to help all to understand how the board started at A and ended at B. You can debate the meaning of censorship all you want. As it pertains to THIS thread, it simply means that a post was deleted by a moderator. So, if Grape uses a raciist term, and his post gets shut down, that is 'censorship,' even if it is something we all agree should happen. This thread isn't going to stop censorship. It is just going to make transparent the NATURE of censorship on this board. The thread might even have a positive effect on the cesors, if they know that their actions will be made public. I wrote a post that neither quoted anything from the temple nor used any questionable language. It DID point out the fact that other posts of mine remained on the board in spite of AAA's wish that they would be taken of. Archaea (presumably) erased the post, perhaps to flex his muscles? Perahps to be funny? If the board things there is a problem with censorship to 'flex one's muscles,' then maybe making that kind information public is a good idea. Transparency is generally a good thing in the control of abuse/potential abuse. |
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If this list ultimately consists of a bunch of justifiable cases of 'censorship,' then it will only serve to bolster the legitimacy of the mods as fair judges. If it reveals that the mods are heavy handed, or out of line, then the thread will serve an important purpose in exposing that. It would be ironic if the thread itself was censored. |
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I have been to the temple quite a bit, and I know what is forbidden and what is not forbidden as far as the script is concerned. If LDS culture shys away from talking about those things, it is fine if the mods of this board choose to support that culture. Some prophets have suggested that members don't talk about the temple ceremony, but those same prophets have also suggested that members don't talk about many subjects that are visited frequently on this board. The actual covenant of secrecy is very specific, and NOTHING that I have ever written about on this board has ever violated that covenant. |
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http://www.fqa.qc.ca/ Given that the French maintain the Académie française to "defend the French language" (since 1635, mind you), I first thought the Fondation pour l'alphabétisation might be a sister organization established in the 1600s to defend the alphabetization of the French language. But alas, to my disappointment, such is not the case. Along those lines, Chirac recently walked out of a EU meeting because the French representative, a leading English-educated steel baron, gave his presentation in English. To the barricades! |
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Thanks for the notice, Johnny.
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My rant here about how a CB post of mine was deleted was in turn deleted. I fail to see how this was in any way against the CG rules, as doing so is a common past time among y'all.
Yet another instance of dicator-like behavior by the CG mods. Or maybe just one. Whoever it was. You are more like CB than you care to admit. |
At least at CB they give you a reason why your post was deleted.
Here? No such courtesy. How uncivilized. |
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Things are lax enough on this board that if a post is deleted, the reason is fairly self-evident. |
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This thread is supposed to be a history of censorship on this site. In most cases the reason for the censorship will be obvious. But if one day we find that posts are being censored, and the reasoning would make el Jefe blush, then we will be able to turn to this thread and read a history of how we arrived at that point. Write the HISTORY of your deleted post. Don't just say, "I had a post deleted, this place is just as bad as CB." |
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That's fine. You can read whatever you want into my posts. I'm not going to stop you.
All I can do is post what I think in as clear a way as I can. |
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What is the motivation for somebody to speak to an audience whose opinion does not matter to him? Is he practicing for the opportunity to someday converse with someone whose opinion DOES matter to him? Is he merely enamoured with the sound of his own voice? Or does he gain as much pleasure from seing one embrace his own ideology as he does from watching others wallow below him in a state of inferiority, such that he is indifferent to their state? As much as Robin has antagonized board members here, he at least attempts to represent views he holds to be important. I may rarely agree with what he says, but I can at least respect his attempts to discuss them with civility. You, on the other hand, have no interest in participation, but seem rather to be aroused by your own presence. |
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Lingo is one of the quirky personalities that, for whatever reason, has decided to pitch a tent in this campground. I doubt I am alone when I say that I am glad that he is here, even though we agree on next to nothing. I like Lingo like I like mustard on my turkey sandwich. I might not ever pull a jar of Dijon out of the fridge and plow through it like it was yoplait, but on a SANDWICH it is perfect. We should spend more time making people feel like they are at home. Too many good people have already felt like they needed to pack up camp and pitch their tent elsewhere. There have been some unfortunate losses. |
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And you're right. I do read what I want into those posts, though you must agree that my take is most likely right on. Mike is free to refute that as he wishes. |
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I added a note when the post was deleted explaining why it was deleted. I can see it when I look at it.
You all can't? |
Lingo is an act. He pretends to not care what anyone thinks about him. However if that were true, he wouldn't put nearly as much time and effort into it.
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