Originally Posted by ERCougar (Post 267546)

But you said the reason people are offended at Brocco's statements is that we claim God "has a hand in BYU winning games". Still waiting for the example of this one...

Correct me if I'm wrong--I'm just reading your post:

"I had a seminary teacher who said that the 84 season was part of the latter day work.

Originally Posted by ERCougar (Post 267546)

He also said that the football program was a second set of missionaries.

Originally Posted by ERCougar (Post 267546)

A kid down the street questioned my faith on numerous times because I wanted byu to lose on saturdays. Now we were both 10-13 during this time and I guess he could have thought this up on his own, but I'm guessing his mullah parents had something to do with it. Actually, I found out this guy died a few years ago and left 3 kids. Sad.
(And for the record, I could have kicked his ass if I had wanted to. He was a wiry twerp).

Originally Posted by ERCougar (Post 267546)

A guy in the ward saying that god really did want them to beat ucla in the bowl game.

Originally Posted by ERCougar (Post 267546)

My mother-in-law and sister-in-law (who are zoobs) were seriously shocked that a member in good standing could not want "the church to win on saturday". They chilled after I'd been around enough and they realized that I could be an ok fellow and still loathe the y."

Originally Posted by OrangeUte (Post 267540)

i'm not going to take the bait.

for what it's worth, i know plenty of cougs who love for the U to lose and take great pride in those losses.

There are others on the board who claim to not care about anything outside of Y football - i.e. they don't care whether Utah loses or wins. This may be, but I have a hard time believing that a Y fan, who gets how the system works (i.e. BCS conferences and BCS bowls, and money money money) don't want the Utes to win. I actually cheered for the Y to beat Washington and UCLA because I want our conference to get to another level. It is clear that the U and the Y are never going to be invited to join the PAC 10 or as some believe, the Big 12 for BYU... It isn't that i root for BYU to win, i just am glad that they won and am impressed by their team. At the same time, it doesn't pain me at all when they lose like they did to Tulsa last year. i would rather that they don't, thought, because the big bowl money on a regular basis only helps the Utes, even if the Cougs or TCU are the ones going to the BCS bowl.

It is a conference thing for me, not a rivalry thing, and certainly not a church thing.

Originally Posted by Brian (Post 267587)

It's never been a church thing for me either. if utah's rival was csu, i'd care as much about byu as I do about SDSU.
Somebody has to take last place in the conference, I'd just prefer it be byu.
I'd rather utah and tcu be the torch bearers of the conference.

Originally Posted by myboynoah (Post 267598)

Maybe for the good of your testimony you should go ahead and make CSU your rival. Then you could get on board with the BYU athletics missionary program.

Just a thought.

Remember, position mastery is the key.

Originally Posted by Brian (Post 267485)

Re: Collie. I grew up in Utah, I've met a lot of people who believe what Collie said. I guess I've met enough assholes to think that he believed what he said. But, I don't know him, so I'm not sure. But, if I were a betting man.....

I had a seminary teacher who said that the 84 season was part of the latter day work.

He also said that the football program was a second set of missionaries.

A kid down the street questioned my faith on numerous times because I wanted byu to lose on saturdays. Now we were both 10-13 during this time and I guess he could have thought this up on his own, but I'm guessing his mullah parents had something to do with it. Actually, I found out this guy died a few years ago and left 3 kids. Sad.
(And for the record, I could have kicked his ass if I had wanted to. He was a wiry twerp).

A guy in the ward saying that god really did want them to beat ucla in the bowl game.

My mother-in-law and sister-in-law (who are zoobs) were seriously shocked that a member in good standing could not want "the church to win on saturday". They chilled after I'd been around enough and they realized that I could be an ok fellow and still loathe the y.


I'll likely think of others while driving home.
If you don't think there are a lot of people that really believe what collie said, you aren't paying attention, or you haven't lived in mormon-land.

It's similar to all the Mitt will help usher in the 2nd coming in the recent primary frenzy.
Replace Mitt w/ Lavell/Gary/Bronco. It's the same idiotic attitude.

Originally Posted by Brian (Post 267602)

i'll fast about it this sunday.

thanks for the idea.

Originally Posted by myboynoah (Post 267810)

Listening to the post game show and Bronco giving lots of credit to Coach Glen. I hope Wyoming keeps Glen around for years to come. I like him.

Originally Posted by scottie (Post 267813)

For those who missed it, what credit was he giving Glenn? Hard for me to imagine what kind of credit he deserves in that game.