Originally Posted by BYU71 (Post 130382)

This reminds me about talking to a friend out at the course the other day.

This guy isn't active at all, but loves BYU football. Anyway we got talking about going to the Vegas game. He said if we go together we need to get tickets away from BYU fans because he is going to have a beer or two. I said, no big deal. He said it is an old habit.

When he was a teenager his Dad told him to go get some beer. He said he was going to go to the local store and his mom said, you can't go there. You know your Dad is the Bishop. You have to go over and buy it in Millard.

Originally Posted by creekster (Post 130489)

Liquor = hard or strong alcholic drinks. Beer is not usually considered same (although some belgian beers can make you stand up and notice, or so I am told).

Iced tea was, traditionally, simply brewed tea cooled and poured over ice. IOW, it is no different. There is sun-brewed tea, however, which might be considered to be different, and, in the more modern era, instant tea messes this all up.

The ahndbook gives guidance on this but, as someone pointed out, the temple recommend question is only whether you keep the WoW. Self-governance, with prayerful consideration and taking into account the words of prophets, seems to the the idea here.

Originally Posted by SeattleUte (Post 130514)

I don't draw a distinction between beer, wine and hard liquors. Generally, you need to drink two glasses of wine or beer to make you feel the same as one glass of whisky will make you feel. Drunk is drunk. The most unhealthy drinks are those with mixers and juices because of the sugar and caloric content. I avoid beer because it seems heavier and more bloating.

Originally Posted by Chapel-Hill-Coug (Post 130511)

Didn't Arrington, while he was church historian, publish something in BYU Studies about the evolution of the WOW being conditioned by economics and politics? I read a summary of the article a couple years ago, I'm pretty sure. If anyone has a citation please let me know.

Originally Posted by creekster (Post 130520)

When you submit your own word of wisdom, you can add somerthing about bloating, which will, I suspect, find approval with your wife and children.

The question I was attempting to assist in asnwering is the difference, tradiiotnally between hard liquor, wine and beer, which may have bearing on the discussion concerning the WoW based on Section 89.

Originally Posted by tooblue (Post 130368)

Of course if we are talking about American beer then we are talking about a 'mild drink' at 3.2%.

Now if we are talking Canadian beer at 5 - 6% ...