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Originally Posted by Cali Coug
(Post 304838)
Playing games? You argued that it is illegal for someone to shove bamboo shoots up their fingers or to have someone else do it to them. Are you abandoning that line of argument? Because you know if you do, you must concede the vast difference between what happened to Hitchens and what happened to KSM, and if you concede that, well- you haven't been right about anything in this thread.
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Actually, I said both moral and legal. No doubt you chose to focus on the "legal" because it's where you could play games the easiest. I confess I'm not as good at that game as you, but I'm sure we could come up with some examples of torture that aren't legal, under any circumstance.
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Originally Posted by Cali Coug
(Post 304838)
IF someone volunteers for "torture," it isn't, by definition, torture until it crosses a line into territory where they have a fear of imminent death (and if the person didn't stop "torturing" them at that point, it would be illegal. So yes, it is legally A-OK to shove bamboo shoots up someone's fingernails if they want you to do it.
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Ah, so "fear of imminent death" is the only standard for torture now, eh? You're backtracking.
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