You summarily condemn Bybee for his moral rationalizations and see your moral rationalizations as different. It's hypocrisy.

Tooblue, you are a moron. Cali is nice, and says you must be just acting a moron for a reaction, that you can't possibly be this stupid. Call me naive, but I don't think it's an act.

You are lost in the woods with no compass.

Tooblue, I am honestly trying to think of a single positive contribution you have made over the years. I'm not coming up with anything.

Maybe there is something I have overlooked, so you other guys here, help me out--tell me what tooblue has contributed.

-------

The rest of us will focus on the task at hand which is whether the USA should be in the business of torture.

Name calling will not change the fact that you have made thoughtless and hypocritical comments about Bybee. Don't blame me for your insecurities.

What other guys? No one else is around. If this is an attempt to run me off it's not working. You will have to play victim with me around to watch.

This is me being nice.

You will soon see the uglier side. The side that is like unto Bybee. Right? Because that's what I am.

Really? You are the one equating Stalin with Nephi.

Link!

Now threats? Interesting.

One of my faults is that I was much too nice and patient with people that wished me ill. Like a cancer it grows until it is unmanageable.

The torture-purveyors are the same. They are the cancer that America is either doing to deal with now or ignore.

When America is gone, they will look back to now. They will look at the flouting of the constitution, the ignoring of laws in the name of security, the breaches of civil liberties. They will note how nobody cared, how people lied, how people were willing to trade their liberties for a false security.

In another age, Jay Bybee would be dragged onto the street and shot. His head would be placed on a pole in the city square.

I don't ask for that. I merely ask that he be questioned under oath. I ask that he be prosecuted, if he broke the law. I ask that if he was unethical in his prior job, that impeachment be considered. Whether that happens or not, I ask that he be shunned. Not as a leper. Because lepers we should care for and serve. Shunned like a devil.

The world likes it devils. And there will be people who call good evil, and evil good. "If you are against torture, you are a gross hypocrite." The number of people with any amount of moral clarity diminishes daily.