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MikeWaters 04-25-2008 04:53 PM

I like a lot of Japanese stuff that is an acquired taste: mugicha, ume boshi (pickled plum), natto (fermented soy beans). When I eat batayaki or sukiyaki or shabu shabu, I like to dip my meat in raw egg.

I saw a show not that long ago, where Japanese people catch small fish. They salt them, then bury them in rice, raw. And then the next year they dig them out and eat them after they have fermented. That looked interesting.

SeattleUte 04-25-2008 04:56 PM

Green Tea (as I understand) is a formiddable weapon against cancer. They've also discovered that coffee is full of anti-oxydents. Not to mention the salutary effects of 2-3 drinks a week.

MikeWaters 04-25-2008 04:58 PM

I know you would love to say that caffeine is good for you, but the evidence is increasingly against it.

http://content.nejm.org/cgi/content/full/341/22/1688

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The article by Klebanoff and colleagues1 in this issue of the Journal adds to the growing body of literature examining the association of caffeine intake with adverse pregnancy outcomes and developmental problems. This study reports an association between spontaneous abortions, primarily in the second trimester, and unusually high levels of consumption of caffeine, equivalent to more than six cups of coffee a day.

Unlike previous studies, in which exposure was estimated from the women's reports of the amount of caffeinated beverages they consumed, Klebanoff et al. used a biologic marker of caffeine intake, the levels of the caffeine metabolite paraxanthine in serum, to estimate exposure. Estimation of exposure on the basis of women's own reports is problematic, both because of potentially inaccurate or biased reports and because the amount of caffeine in a cup of tea or coffee differs greatly, depending on the method of preparation.2 The use of a biologic marker of exposure may help to reduce misclassification. Nevertheless, a single serum measurement, as used in the study by Klebanoff et al., may not accurately reflect a woman's exposure during the critical period of fetal development, since in early pregnancy the half-life of caffeine is short (approximately three to seven hours) and caffeine intake may vary markedly during pregnancy because of nausea and food aversion.

Given the results of the study by Klebanoff et al.,1 can we now conclude that the consumption of caffeine at usual levels during pregnancy is safe? The weight of the evidence still suggests otherwise. A recent meta-analysis3 concluded that there is a small increase in the crude risk of both spontaneous abortion (odds ratio, 1.4; 95 percent confidence interval, 1.3 to 1.5) and low birth weight (odds ratio, 1.5; 95 percent confidence interval, 1.4 to 1.6) in women who consume more than 150 mg of caffeine, or roughly one to two cups of coffee, per day. Furthermore, on the basis of studies in animals, spontaneous abortion and low birth weight may not be the most sensitive end points to use in determining the in utero effects of caffeine consumption.

SeattleUte 04-25-2008 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeWaters (Post 213324)
I know you would love to say that caffeine is good for you, but the evidence is increasingly against it.

http://content.nejm.org/cgi/content/full/341/22/1688

I'm not pregnant.

Spaz 04-25-2008 05:03 PM

Since you couldn't drink tap-water in Korea, pretty much everyone made "Barley-tea" when they boiled their water to improve the taste.


It was pretty much like drinking water filtered through cardboard.

MikeWaters 04-25-2008 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by SeattleUte (Post 213326)
I'm not pregnant.

No wonder you are so slow:

http://content.nejm.org/cgi/content/full/341/22/1688

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Investigations on the effect of caffeine on cerebral venous vessel contrast by using susceptibility-weighted imaging (SWI) at 1.5, 3 and 7 T.

Sedlacik J, Helm K, Rauscher A, Stadler J, Mentzel HJ, Reichenbach JR.

Medical Physics Group, Institute of Diagnostic and Interventional Radiology, Friedrich Schiller University, Philosophenweg 3, Jena, Germany.

Caffeine lowers the blood oxygenation level-dependent (BOLD) signal by acting as an adenosine antagonist, thus decreasing the cerebral blood flow (CBF). The aims of this study were to demonstrate the sensitivity of susceptibility-weighted imaging (SWI) to caffeine-induced changes in CBF and to investigate the time course and magnitude of signal change in caffeine-habituated and -abstinent volunteers. High-resolution susceptibility-weighted images were acquired with both groups at 1.5 T using a fully velocity compensated 3D gradient echo sequence. Following a native scan, subjects were given a tablet containing 200 mg of caffeine. Scans were repeated for about 1 h and the acquired 3D data sets were co-registered to each other. BOLD signal changes of several venous vessels were analyzed in dedicated ROIs. Maps of relative signal change clearly visualized the caffeine-induced signal response of veins. Only very weak signal changes of about -2+/-1% were found in both, grey and white matter and -1+/-2% in the ventricles. Maximum signal decrease of veins occurred 40-50 min after caffeine ingestion. The signal decrease was -16.5+/-6.5% and -22.7+/-8.3% for the caffeine users group and abstainers, respectively. The signal difference of both groups was statistically significant (Student's t-test, t=2.16, p=0.021). Data acquired at 1.5, 3 and 7 T with echo times scaled to the respective field strength display very similar temporal signal behavior.

You don't have blood flowing to your brain. Are you a lush too?

myboynoah 04-25-2008 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeWaters (Post 213310)
I like Mugicha. Cold, with no sweeteners or any other additives.

Is there any other way to drink it?

Warm Kombu-cha is nice.

Otherwise, I hate all teas, herbal or otherwise.

myboynoah 04-25-2008 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeff Lebowski (Post 213315)
Me too. We call it "cigarette butt tea".

I used so say the Japanese had found a way to make burnt water.

TripletDaddy 04-25-2008 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeWaters (Post 213318)
I like a lot of Japanese stuff that is an acquired taste: mugicha, ume boshi (pickled plum), natto (fermented soy beans). When I eat batayaki or sukiyaki or shabu shabu, I like to dip my meat in raw egg.

shabu shabu. excellent call.

that is what I doing for lunch today. thanks for the idea.

8ballrollin 04-25-2008 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by TripletDaddy (Post 213342)
shabu shabu.

My favorite INXS album.


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