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Archaea

10-20-2008 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeff Lebowski (Post 281829)

That's not inspiring either.

At least I'm on a roll.

And as DDD and Barbara are wont to point out, my humor fails me, but I really appreciate Jewish, sarcastic, dark humor. Mormons, we're often too light-hearted to appreciate it, at least that's what I notice when I make my failed attempts at it.

NorCal Cat

10-21-2008 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Levin (Post 281826)

I don't think you know what it means to "be in favor of gay marriage." Many people may oppose gay marriage on a religious level -- they think God does not condone it -- but that in our pluralistic, democratic society, gay marriage should be respected as a civil right.

It is the same with abortion: many believe God does not condone it -- even forbids it -- but that in our democratic, free society, it is not the place of the State to forbid it and strip a woman of her agency in that regard, no matter the choices she made that resulted in her pregnancy.

BTW, I fully intend to have light-hearted moments in my next Sacrament meeting talk. Do I sustain the Brethren there?

Nonsense. The direction is clear. Gay marriage is not to be supported at any level, religious or secular.

exUte

10-22-2008 05:21 AM

Its also a moral question.........

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Originally Posted by CardiacCoug (Post 278866)

The Church has not added any questions concerning gay marriage to the temple recommend questions. They could start asking about it immediately if they considered it a core doctrine of the Church. Thus, I must conclude that they do not require a member to support gay marriage bans in order to remain a member of the Church in good standing.

This is a political question. You don't have to support a legal ban on abortion, either, as far as I know. Why don't they add this to the temple recommend questions? Probably because they respect the right of the individual member to disagree with Church leadership on this issue.

are you really that naive? Or you consider sodomy a political issue?

BTW.......what do YOU think about the Proclamation on the Family? Inspired or not? Simple question.

exUte

10-22-2008 05:23 AM

Should gay marriages performed in states

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Originally Posted by Archaea (Post 281824)

I don't know what they've done about it. However, I am straight and will forever seek heterosexual companionship.

What goes on in California is of little concern of mine. If gays wish to be miserable like straights, why not let them.

who have legalized it be valid in states where it is not?

non sequitur

10-22-2008 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by exUte (Post 282779)

are you really that naive? Or you consider sodomy a political issue?

BTW.......what do YOU think about the Proclamation on the Family? Inspired or not? Simple question.

Does this all boil down to sodomy for you? So I'm guessing you also don't think hetero-sexual couples who engage in anal sex should be allowed to marry? What about lesbian couples? No sodomy there. Should we let them marry?

UteStar

10-22-2008 03:44 PM

Gays getting married ALWAYS boils down to sodomy, beastiality and pedophilia for a select few people that can't distinguish any kind of difference.

And yes, I have no problem with gay people getting married and I am a member in good standing and I support the prophet and the quorum of the 12. Do you think they are fine though with people like NorCal and exUte talking about them being fudgepackers and also relating it to sodomy, among other things.

If I were you, I would take a long hard look in the mirror about your own standing in the church before you accuse others of 'struggling' with their own standing.

Ceteris Paribus

10-22-2008 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by UteStar (Post 282859)

If I were you, I would take a long hard look in the mirror about your own standing in the church before you accuse others of 'struggling' with their own standing.

Words to live by...post of the day.

RC Vikings

10-22-2008 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Archaea (Post 281824)

What goes on in California is of little concern of mine. If gays wish to be miserable like straights, why not let them.

Multiple partners and no financial ties to any one person looks pretty good to me. I'm with Arch on this one and maybe we need to send them a note "Be careful what you wish for".

exUte

10-23-2008 03:25 AM

Those that disagree are obviously smarter

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Originally Posted by NorCal Cat (Post 278851)

sustaining the first presidency, and the twelve apostles? I am serious. If we vote to sustain them in this capacity, doesn't that include following their counsel on an issue they obviously feel is very important?

than the Prophet. They should demand a meeting with him and his counselors to straighten them out.........perhaps they could even pass along some info to the 'higher' ups.

exUte

10-23-2008 03:26 AM

Just based on your guess / analysis

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Originally Posted by Levin (Post 281826)

you think God condones gay marriage? Or abortion?

And IF you don't think they do, you not only stand idly by but fight against God's will? Interesting.

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