Obey the law of the land. This means civil disobedience is contrary to the counsel of the Prophet. Not a good place to be.

But you can still effect change through lawful community involvement and exercising your right to vote, correct?

Sometimes that's not enough.

Regardless, this is a thread about reality, not theory.

I always regret investing so much into the Kirtland Safety Society.

*Whiff!*

In my short life, maybe so. But it would hopeully have presented a dilemma for saints just a generation or two ago. Would you have supported segregation and Jim Crow laws because they were the "law of the land"?

Again, this is a thread about reality, not theory. There are innumerable threads on this site about the unspeakable evils that will inevitably be committed by a blindly obedient church membership when a prophet asks them to do something evil.

P.S. Polygamy was an extended case of church civil disobedience.

"No, but you . . . you . . . you're thinking of this place all wrong. As if I had the money back in a safe. The money's not here. Your money's in Joe's house . . . . . . right next to yours. And in the Kennedy house, and Mrs. Macklin's house, and a hundred others. Why, you're lending them the money to build, and then, they're going to pay it back to you as best they can. Now what are you going to do? Foreclose on them?"

My hope is that Joseph was more George Baily than Uncle Billy during the whole episode. I wonder if Violet and Fanny Alger bear any physical resemblance.

[SoonerCoug]When I was a poor Mexican, the prophet made me pay the same tithing percentage as everyone else.[/SoonerCoug]