cougarguard.com — unofficial BYU Cougars / LDS sports, football, basketball forum and message board
Page 2 of 8 1 2 34 Last »
Show 40 post(s) from this thread on one page

cougarguard.com — unofficial BYU Cougars / LDS sports, football, basketball forum and message board (http://www.cougarguard.com/forum/index.php)
-   Current Events (http://www.cougarguard.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=12)
-   -   Kids send dirty pictures to each other (http://www.cougarguard.com/forum/showthread.php?t=7388)

Archaea 04-02-2007 06:40 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by marsupial (Post 69431)
Wah-schmah. I'd take a revoked temple recommend and Bishop's court over an unwanted pregnancy any day.

Priesthood holders are supposed to protect women--that's a part of the job. As women, we are counseled to sustain you and look to you for leadership and guidance. With that authority comes greater responsibility. Certainly, I have my own issues with the traditional Priesthood/RS roles in our church, but when the men have all the power and they screw up, of course they are going to take more heat.

Essentially, because women can get pregnant and men can't, women will always pay the greatest price for sexual indiscretion. Perhaps the church is just making an attempt to even the score.
What if the female can't get pregnant, because the man is fixed?

I don't understand the disparate treatment, but that's how it is, and we shall deal with it.

tooblue 04-02-2007 06:47 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by marsupial (Post 69431)
Wah-schmah. I'd take a revoked temple recommend and Bishop's court over an unwanted pregnancy any day.

Priesthood holders are supposed to protect women--that's a part of the job. As women, we are counseled to sustain you and look to you for leadership and guidance. With that authority comes greater responsibility. Certainly, I have my own issues with the traditional Priesthood/RS roles in our church, but when the men have all the power and they screw up, of course they are going to take more heat.

Essentially, because women can get pregnant and men can't, women will always pay the greatest price for sexual indiscretion. Perhaps the church is just making an attempt to even the score.
I agree, consequences for the mans actions should be more severe. However, this is a societal problem much more than an 'in the church' problem.

Archaea 04-02-2007 06:49 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by tooblue (Post 69439)
I agree, consequences for the mans actions should be more severe. However, this is a societal problem much more than a 'in the church' problem.
Why?

The treatment should be equal, if we believe in equal treatment under the law. I don't see a rational basis for disaparate legal treatment.

tooblue 04-02-2007 06:54 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Archaea (Post 69440)
Why?

The treatment should be equal, if we believe in equal treatment under the law. I don't see a rational basis for disaparate legal treatment.
With authority comes greater responsability and more severe consequences. Unrighteous dominion cannot be tolerated in the least degree.

myboynoah 04-02-2007 06:54 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by marsupial (Post 69431)
Wah-schmah. I'd take a revoked temple recommend and Bishop's court over an unwanted pregnancy any day.

Priesthood holders are supposed to protect women--that's a part of the job. As women, we are counseled to sustain you and look to you for leadership and guidance. With that authority comes greater responsibility. Certainly, I have my own issues with the traditional Priesthood/RS roles in our church, but when the men have all the power and they screw up, of course they are going to take more heat.

Essentially, because women can get pregnant and men can't, women will always pay the greatest price for sexual indiscretion. Perhaps the church is just making an attempt to even the score.
Interesting view. I don't know that I completely agree, but you make a compelling argument.

marsupial 04-02-2007 06:58 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Archaea (Post 69440)
Why?

The treatment should be equal, if we believe in equal treatment under the law. I don't see a rational basis for disaparate legal treatment.
But the thing is, there is not equal treatment between men and women in the church. Women have influence, but no authority in the church. As long as that is so, the consequences are going to be different for the same wrong doing.

Archaea 04-02-2007 06:59 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by tooblue (Post 69444)
With authority comes greater responsability and more severe consequences. Unrighteous dominion cannot be tolerated in the least degree.
Give me a break, friend. In a dating relationship, the male and female are not on equal ground--- she has total control over what happens and you're completely at her mercy.

I do not know "women" who honor the priesthood in giving deference to whatever the man wants. Perhaps some backwoods women do in Utah or Idaho, but I doubt that. No, women lack the final stamp of approval but general call the shots.

Each has dominion over one's own body. (Now I'm speaking of rape but consensual actions).

tooblue 04-02-2007 07:04 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by marsupial (Post 69446)
But the thing is, there is not equal treatment between men and women in the church. Women have influence, but no authority in the church. As long as that is so, the consequences are going to be different for the same wrong doing.
They do have authority ... simply because it is a different authority does not mean it is less authority.

marsupial 04-02-2007 07:07 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by tooblue (Post 69450)
They do have authority ... simply because it is a different authority does not mean it is less authority.
What authority is that? We get to decide what to do for Sharing Time? We plan the ward potluck? We are help mates. We have the supporting role. I'm not complaining. That's just how it is.

Archaea 04-02-2007 07:07 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by tooblue (Post 69450)
They do have authority ... simply because it is a different authority does not mean it is less authority.
This sounds like an argument about who gets to sign the checks when both parties also have credit cards.


All times are GMT. The time now is 09:05 PM.
Page 2 of 8 1 2 34 Last »
Show 40 post(s) from this thread on one page

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.2
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.