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BlueK 03-13-2015 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeWaters (Post 319648)
Well that's good news.

I mean, I expect that the church is going to become more progressive in starts and fits.

Because it won't survive if it doesn't.

And the same goes with feminism as well.

No sports programs for girls in most stakes?

No ability for girls to go on campouts or outdoors high adventure?

Etc.

there are no church sports for boys anymore either in many stakes, including mine. I don't think that's a good thing. There used to be church sports for girls. There certainly were when I was growing up. There is nothing institutionally in place that prohibits it. But there are plenty of local stakes around the church though that seem to think church sports aren't important enough to support, but I think that's contrary to what SLC wants.

BlueK 03-13-2015 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeWaters (Post 319651)
We could be hemorrhaging members, but not know it.

That's the thing, we are operating in a vacuum in terms of information and data.

What we can do is shed dumb cultural baggage that has nothing to do with the core of the message/gospel.

If we think there is a future where stake leadership meetings include zero females. Good luck to us.

The problem is people like my mother in law (whom I do love and have a good relationship with) who seemingly have little to no ability to distinguish between real doctrine and tradition. In that sense, we're not so different than the Catholics. She couldn't cite the location of a scripture to save her life but she's extremely well versed in the practice of LDS cultural tradition thinking it's all doctrine.

MikeWaters 03-13-2015 07:43 PM

Mormon women are arguably the biggest impediment to changes that would expand women's role in the church.

I really feel that they don't support it. Esp. the older ones.

Archaea 03-14-2015 04:26 AM

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Originally Posted by MikeWaters (Post 319665)
Mormon women are arguably the biggest impediment to changes that would expand women's role in the church.

I really feel that they don't support it. Esp. the older ones.

The Church is stagnant. Organizations get that way. Maybe we won't see the Church become vibrant in our life times.


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