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MikeWaters
08-22-2007, 01:48 AM
http://www.cougarboard.com/noframes/message.html?id=2918337

I just came up with an idea. I bet if he sold his 350z he could use that to keep his house solvent for a while.

il Padrino Ute
08-22-2007, 01:54 AM
http://www.cougarboard.com/noframes/message.html?id=2918337

I just came up with an idea. I bet if he sold his 350z he could use that to keep his house solvent for a while.

I don't understand why people who spend beyond their means want me to feel badly for them.

MikeWaters
08-22-2007, 01:56 AM
I don't understand why people who spend beyond their means want me to feel badly for them.

But they thought it would turn out different.

I'm sitting on a ARM right now. Am I thrilled? No. But I also have a house that is not that far from 1x my income.

ewth8tr
08-22-2007, 02:00 AM
But they thought it would turn out different.

I'm sitting on a ARM right now. Am I thrilled? No. But I also have a house that is not that far from 1x my income.
I don't want people to feel badly for me and my 5.5% fixed rate either :)

il Padrino Ute
08-22-2007, 02:12 AM
But they thought it would turn out different.

I'm sitting on a ARM right now. Am I thrilled? No. But I also have a house that is not that far from 1x my income.

I understand what you're saying and wasn't talking about you. I meant byu1 in particular and especially agree with your comment about his car.

Edit: ARMs suck and I hate mortgage companies that use them to get business. They do seem attractive, but I am such a miser with my money that I looked at the end of the road and not the beginning when I got my fixed fate for 15 years. The mortgage guy tried to push an ARM at me and when I asked why he objected to me wanting a fixed rate, he had no answer. So I left and went to a bank and got what I wanted.

MikeWaters
08-22-2007, 02:13 AM
My brother complains that he can't move out of my parents house, and he drives a nicer car than me (2006 Camry vs. my 2001 sentra).

MikeWaters
08-22-2007, 02:17 AM
btw, I like byu1. I'm not rejoicing in his pain. I've suggested he moved to TExas. And of course, I don't offer that to everyone.

Jeff Lebowski
08-22-2007, 02:18 AM
I don't want people to feel badly for me and my 5.5% fixed rate either :)

We are at 4 5/8 fixed. Neener, neener.

il Padrino Ute
08-22-2007, 02:19 AM
My brother complains that he can't move out of my parents house, and he drives a nicer car than me (2006 Camry vs. my 2001 sentra).

IMO, the only reason to have a car is to get you from point A to point B. Perhaps I'm weird in that sense.

You drive a practical car. Good for you. It gets you to work so you can get on with your career and eventually the big bucks.

il Padrino Ute
08-22-2007, 02:20 AM
We are at 4 5/8 fixed. Neener, neener.

You guys have me beat. I'm at 6 1/8 fixed - but I'm in year 8 of 15.

MikeWaters
08-22-2007, 02:20 AM
IMO, the only reason to have a car is to get you from point A to point B. Perhaps I'm weird in that sense.

You drive a practical car. Good for you. It gets you to work so you can get on with your career and eventually the big bucks.

get safely from point A to point B.

il Padrino Ute
08-22-2007, 02:21 AM
get safely from point A to point B.

Is a Sentra not a safe car?

I'm of the belief that a car is as safe as the driver.

MikeWaters
08-22-2007, 02:23 AM
Is a Sentra not a safe car?

I'm of the belief that a car is as safe as the driver.

It's ok. I'm talking about people driving suzuki samurais . and cars with no air bags.

il Padrino Ute
08-22-2007, 02:36 AM
It's ok. I'm talking about people driving suzuki samurais . and cars with no air bags.

Got it.

People who drive those vehicle have a death wish, IMO.

As for me, I drive a Buick LeSabre.

Mormon Red Death
08-22-2007, 02:37 AM
my question is why didnt he just stay in the the townhome?

il Padrino Ute
08-22-2007, 02:40 AM
my question is why didnt he just stay in the the townhome?

He wanted to keep up with the Jonses.

MikeWaters
08-22-2007, 02:58 AM
my question is why didnt he just stay in the the townhome?

"left behind syndrome".

If you don't buy a house now, you'll never be able to. so goes the reasoning.

BlueHair
08-23-2007, 01:53 AM
We are at 4 5/8 fixed. Neener, neener.

Nice. I thought I had a good deal at 5.375% Did you have to pay points to get that rate?

Jeff Lebowski
08-23-2007, 02:05 AM
Nice. I thought I had a good deal at 5.375% Did you have to pay points to get that rate?

Nope. We got it 4-5 years ago. Got lucky on our timing and caught one of the dips.

Trust me, my timing in financial matters is rarely this good.

il Padrino Ute
08-23-2007, 02:31 AM
Nice. I thought I had a good deal at 5.375% Did you have to pay points to get that rate?

Points are a huge ripoff. They're just another way for the mortgage company to suck money out of your pocket and increase the commission of the guy doing the mortgage for you.

cougjunkie
08-23-2007, 05:46 AM
Points are a huge ripoff. They're just another way for the mortgage company to suck money out of your pocket and increase the commission of the guy doing the mortgage for you.

I must weigh in here and defend my profession for a second. Points are not a ripoff if you plan to keep the mortgage the full term, or a substantial amount of time. For example. Usually paying 1 point or percent will buy down your interest rate .5%. So for example:

200,000 loan amount, at an interest rate of 6.5%, closing costs at 3% so you pay 6000 in closing costs and your payment is 1264.16.

If you pay 1 point and buy down the rate to 6% it looks like this:

200,000 loan amount, interest rate of 6%, closing costs at 3% plus additional 2,000 for 1 point. Your payment is: 1167.15 a month.

So to make it simple you save 100 a month, in 20 months you recoup your original 2k, and over the next 28 years you will save yourself: $33,600.

il Padrino Ute
08-23-2007, 05:57 AM
I must weigh in here and defend my profession for a second. Points are not a ripoff if you plan to keep the mortgage the full term, or a substantial amount of time. For example. Usually paying 1 point or percent will buy down your interest rate .5%. So for example:

200,000 loan amount, at an interest rate of 6.5%, closing costs at 3% so you pay 6000 in closing costs and your payment is 1264.16.

If you pay 1 point and buy down the rate to 6% it looks like this:

200,000 loan amount, interest rate of 6%, closing costs at 3% plus additional 2,000 for 1 point. Your payment is: 1167.15 a month.

So to make it simple you save 100 a month, in 20 months you recoup your original 2k, and over the next 28 years you will save yourself: $33,600.

Fair enough.

I should have stated that in my situation, points would have been a ripoff.